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but labour turn this into the cost of living crisis. that became common speak. is that what this is all about? >> cost of living had a real grip. labour had a strong hold on it. i remember talking about policies. the message i got back was, we do not want to engage in that. it is labour territory. >> freeze on energy prices when they are coming down. the tuition fee cuts. and that would only benefit students of 35,000 pounds a year
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. and when you bring it, i think they have a vice-like grip on cost of living. they lost the grip on some of those policies. and these are small shifts. people are saying things aren't as bad as they were and natural conservative. >> i have to bring it to a close and talk more about this >> nina, thank you. we spoke to the former president of the democrats and let's see what is happening in his
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constituency si. >> timothy james commonly known as tim liberal democrats 25,194. [cheers and applause] >> loins commonly known as green party 1,798.
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[cheers and applause] conservative party candidate 16,245. [applause] piper, alan, u.k. independence party, 3031 [applause] the total -- tom: back in loansdale. we are suggesting that ed davey very close to the leader is out in his constituency si. you want to pick that up.
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that is where we started. it seems as if we can say the story of the night is no significant shift between the tories and the labour party. this emergens. colin: we see ed davey. kingston council was won back from the democrats a year ago. they are suffering both ways. surprisingly. still factoring. and the third most student-dominated constituency si in the country.
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goes back to 2005 when they exercised the iraq war. this time, they seemed to have revolted. tom: what do you make of labour's performance this evening? nina: against a conservative liberal and going against the tories. and in very, very large numbers. and yet after five years of conservative-led government in which we expect naturally opposition to start inching ahead, only losing % in terms of the swing from conservative to labour tonight. it's extremely surprising. really a terrible night for
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labour. scotland is in the equation. it's a disaster, worst performance since 1987. tom: you may have heard, a terrible night for you. is that how you see it? >> it is a disappointing night. we hadn't made the progress we hoped to make and that isn't because we haven't been campaigninging or the heart we have put in this campaign. we worked extremely hard, but very disappointing. but there are more results to come in and hope to make more gains.
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>> the labour party is going to ask itself some pretty searching questions. looked like you lost scotland pretty much unbelievable in the history of the labour party if it turns out to be the case. it was argued that he was trying to win an election from the left and never made a big secret. time to get back to tony blair's big 10 mentality. do you have to be more sentist as a party to win? >> i already lost
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>> i'm clearly in the scotland some of this has to do with the momentum that happened in the referendum and happy as how murphy stepped up. but clearly, we had a situation over the last six weeks where the snp have been ducked by the tories and they are contributing to what we warned about giving david cameron closer access to the keys of number 10. as far as our policies are concerned, look, we are a progressive party, but we understand that also in line
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with social justice, we need to have a strong economy, and i don't see anything that is if you like too left wing about saying that we could have a successful economy not by having a race to the bottom but the vast majority of working people are low and middle incomes. i think most british people believe in that, too. it is a long night, too. there will be discussion later on. >> it is a long night ahead. thank you very much for taking the time to join us. let us look at at the results. bring you in here and change the vote here. remarkably similar pattern.
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>> as colin said many times. people going in and out different parties. liberal parties have gone to labour and gone to the greens and here's a seat where that is the loss of dell cat m.p. >> the voters that you think remain what do you think they want to do? >> the remaining conservative -- remaining liberal democrats, some of them, almost -- equal split between those who like a conservative-led coalition and those who would like a coalition, so in a sense sose of those liberal democrats are favorable to the conservatives. always by definition those who have lasted the definition of
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five years of relatively speaking, but -- >> that makes their life very complicated. >> they don't want to be on that support. and those people who are sticking with the dems. they want to get back to the levels of 2010 and 2005. and so on and so forth. i don't think what the liberal democrats can do is look to their current supporters. they have to go back to those who desserted them they have gone to labour and the greens and conservatives. and the largest majority of the voters. and you know, staying in the coalition with the conservative
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government that's committed to further austerity would be extremely difficult. >> have to go back to 45 years, talking about the liberal party as in 1970. they could fit in a taxi. and it is certainly a mini bus and in 1970, they didn't have influence on british politics they are going to build and build, progress was clearly being overseen in that 45-year period and then tonight whoof. it will come as a terrible shock. >> this happened in 2010. liberal democrats haven't been losing extra votes. we are seeing -- >> we are calling the new
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democrat. >> one seat in scotland and one seat in wales.
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>> that is exactly what they plan to do.
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thank you very much. [applause] >> we are witnessing something historic. it hasn't happened overnight. losing touch with the people of scott land and losing the touch of people for many years. and what they are suffering tonight and sympathy for everybody who is losing their seat what they are suffering.
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>> other key vemmingts. lots of developments. we saw carlisle, a key target. many more results coming in. >> and we have seen going through the glass gow northeast. the labour m.p. and he was the last name on the target list that the m.p. were going for and loobs like has lost and that is a clean sweep all the way through scotland, the scottish secretary, the sole survivor. we are going to have a look at
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brent central. it is worth looking at because of the enormous nature -- i mean everyone to be honest, even before we knew there was going to be a meltdown. it is worth looking at for the sheer level of the meltdown in their vote. maybe i can bring you in here. we have seen some bad swings for the liberal democrats. it is bad and some catastropheic. >> worst liberal democrat decline in constituency si we have seen all night. we haven't begun. we may still see them. >> eastlee is a conservative si gain. they won that in the bi-election. >> not having a great campaign
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or great candidate. and it looks as though they have been this evening. i think you said and butler used to be an m.p. the boundry is changed and lost and i think as soon as sarah said she would stand down, everyone assumed it was going to be a labour but they didn't assume it was going to be a 30% swing. >> when do you think we will have a move -- we talked about the exit polls. what point do you think we update the exit polls? >> i'm boring on this subject. >> you are never boring. >> we have had about a quarter of the results or something of that kind. but not a sufficient variety.
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ening lapped is slow to count because of the low elections. i would think perhaps 127:30, we may think about adjusting. but i would reiterate to you that nothing that we have seen far suggests that the exit polls are fundamentally wrong. it bambingly said that the s.n.p. would sweep. liberal democrats would take a hammering and the conservatives would be pretty close to an effective majority, if not quite there perhaps. >> at some point, go to be a bit of an investigation how you get your exit polls so right and everybody else gets it so wrong. do you think there was late movement? >> late swings is what it is called. i don't know what the pollsters will say.
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i don't know the difference between phone polls and internet polls. they keep going back and in the trade. jane will know this better than i. they talk about panel of effects. perhaps if you are being paid, that has an impact of how you look at politics and inguest the news. telephone polls tend to be much more random. >> you never really know whether this is a last-minute swing or whether the polls are wrong. one of the arguments are that there are a slot of shy tories. but the kind of scale between the polls and the results we are saying. this has to be investigated. not a lot of differences between the two major parties and those vote shares looked very stable. but those translation into seats
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and much of that and liberal democrats would hold on and our data was haven't telling us that. there were some indications. hands up. the exit polls guys did an excellent job on the team. >> let's focus for a few minutes on his future. joined by william hill. what are your chances? >> we are looking at three leadership campaigns alexander
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would be a concern. three-horse race. >> let's get some analysis from what he mentioned. his former adviser, john wilkes. in terms of nick. we heard losing the leadership. is that a real possibility?
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>> going to be 10 or 12. he is in my view head and shoulder he is still young and he is behaving in a states map-like way. and the electors agree. he ought to be a contender to lead this party and he can do it in the most difficult circumstances as all. he will have to be doing some thinking about it. >> you wrote an article about nick saying he was the most underrated most criticized politician in britain. do you think he will be judged more kindly? people said it wouldn't last a year. it was a stable coalition for five years. >> he ought to be judged very well because he could have been
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chosen. he would have left his party. but what we forget, we are scared about the world economy and the stability of britain and pay a great deal of money on our debt. and took the risk of government. he knew that the minority party is unlushly punished. not in the interest of the liberal democrats and now he is being punished.
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>> he has got a very good deal. >> we get results from sheffield. >> miliband, the labour leader has left his home and on the way to his camp with his wife just teen. what is he thinking. he seemed very optimistic indeed in the run-up to the elections. seemed optimistic. he spoke to some of his staff today. he seemed to feel it was going well. but as we have said often during the course of the campaign, no one really knows anything. colin knows a lot. and jane. we got some people here who know what they are talking about and
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put me out of business. not nearly enough about wales and let's look at what has been happening there. seats so far, labour won 21. we can see the change in terms of who's lost and who's won. and the story of the night, notal huge amount of conservatives. and it seems to have -- conservatives seem to have picked up. we have adrian that can put it in perspective. what is happening in wales in terms of overall picture? >> something extraordinary. it fits in with the u.k. picture. for you will intepts and purposes, the conservatives were quite happy on what they were expecting, which was around
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eight seats. picking up the seat they expected to gain. but some frankly, the conservatives here in wales didn't think they were going to win. after the recount went to them and recount in one and every chance that the seat was conservative. pretty much everybody including the conservatives have given up. and that is very close. and could well be in the territory. and we will find out very soon. one hand it's a very good night for the conservatives. much better than they expected to do in wales. that means it's been a bad night for labour. of course, they are still in course to remain the largest party and pick up a couple of seats.
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one of the most senior figures former government whip has lost her seat to labour. the welsh nationalists, you have been talking about the surge. that hasn't been a gain. they are doing well. looked like they are going to keep their three seats and there was a big disappointment for them just now. they had a recount
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>> go back a year and couldn't have expected the platform that they have had and yet we have seen nothing no hint of what's happening in scott lapped going off on wales. >> and it lies -- what labour is doing. unlike in scotland, here in wales, welsh laboror took a very deliberate decision to differentiate itself from u.k. labour. there was talk of some ways. labour has pinched the best teams and been able to -- so the
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people people like the idea of more awe tony and they have been choosing labour. that doesn't explain what has been happening tonight wrm people have been turning to the conservatives. and tried overhard to overcome. and it's not being an native, she has tried desperately to overturn that. increases ready for the next year's assembly election and start building the snp. >> possibly labour, m.p.'s in scotland are optimistic. one more question.
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steven the son, not a big surprise. pretty well. but i notice did well in that constituency si. quite an interesting result in its own way. >> it is and we have been keeping a close eye the way the u.k. has been performing. and they have managed to come second in some traditional labour strongholds sometimes good seconds. next year in the assembly elections, that is going to benefit them. absolutely tonight, not just them, but the prime minister of denmark already taking part and visited to take part. expecting a bit of danish
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glamour. >> perhaps not a lot of people watching this program is married to the danish prime minister, how is that going to work? >> at the moment dividing his time between denmark and london and the constituency si. they have bought a house and plan to be there. they say it is a complicated rangement but it does work for them. >> thank you indeed. we go to basildo nmp south. >> the result of poll. the election of member of
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parliament. [indiscernible] >> number of votes recorded for each candidate is as follows. independent 205. labour party 11,493. u.k. independence party. 12,097. conservative party candidate, 19
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788. [applause] independent, 401. >> conservative hold >> one of their targets but clearly isn't getting as close as they would like. >> we can have a look and see what the results were there. there it is. look at the change in the share of the vote there. >> this is extraordinary to have ukip in second place. they are second in 11 seats. and when we get to the point in
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the night where we don't have half of the results and ukip came in handful of results. and while the ukip may not win. and may not have the night they hoped for but argue their second place puts them into a stronger place. >> they will end up losing nigel.
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>> you can see the left bank, liberal democrats save seats. not anymore. [indiscernible] >> by the looks of it, he is convincingly out of the picture there.
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convincing labour gain. >> 4.5,000 votes. looks like the liberal democrats have held on. tale of two stories. look at what has happened and the change in the vote. >> sometime before this evening i thought this would happen. quite a lot more. but actually, the liberal democrats are losing seats to the conservatives. but this is a seat, if there was going to be a seat that we thought a sitting m.p. would hold by their fingernails, and
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he was known someone to be left of his party. the kind of m.p. that should have appealed to the labour party. won these votes. and they moved over to labour instead of sticking to simon hughes. >> nick has arrived at his seat until sheffield not very long ago. i'm assuming -- and the pictures we are seeing, what he is thinking. pit of time with nick on the campaign and a lot before it. and i can honestly say it entered his head that he'd be down to 10 m.p.'s at the end of this evening. it's quite amazing really.
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told that alex has won his seat in gordon. if he hadn't won it. nevertheless, he will be back and safely say causing david cameron trouble at westminster and no love loss between the two men. . we are waiting to hear simon hughes and what he will have to say in this will moment. but as i was saying, alexander will not be the leader at westminster. no doubt, he will be an articulate spokesman. and taken pleasure in winding up
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the tories in various points. let's go to gordon and what's happening there. >> ladies and gentlemen, possession to declare the results for the gordon constituency si. of the total votes cast, results are as follows --
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>> not particularly surprising let's hear what he has got to say. >> ladies and gentlemen i offer
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thanks to you and your staff for the official way in which they conducted and carried through the election today. can i thank those who conducted the election for the first time. better opportunities will occur in the future and i wish them well. i would like to spend a moment thanking my campaign team. my exroormed campaign team, led by my election agents -- [applause] somehow managed to get me through nine election campaigns, more testament to my abilities
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and given the circumstances in which you are to conduct this campaign. i look forward to representing the people of gordon to whom i give thanks. it is enormous constituency si and i look forward to representing every constituent regardless of their political views in this election or any other. ladies and gentlemen, there is a rough wind blowing through the great country of scotland. there is a scotland. it is twice the level of any swing in scotland and across the united kingdom since electoral
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records began. >> one thing is for sure, we will be hearing a lot more of him in the weeks and months to come. we are joined in northern ireland a leader from the first minister. what do you make what has happened. what do you make what is happening in scotland tonight? >> there is some concern. but there will be those who voted during the referendum to stay within the united kingdom who voted for s.n.p. for scotland to have a strong voice at westminster and we shouldn't cross them off in terms of the people we talk to or the people we listen to and very important for the sake of the union that we don't give a message that we don't want to hear scotland's
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voice in the house of commons. we have to do everything we can to strengthen the union. >> do you think another referendum is important. do you think that is the signal that scotland is sending tonight? >> i don't think that people when they go to the polls vote for just one issue. it has been made fairly clear and the scottish people listened that this was not a vote on the referendum but sending representatives to represent scotland and with a particular message. so i think we have to take them at their word and i trust that we will get back into the pattern of having a good election in scotland and we must have a renching of referendum.
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and start going to buildup the united kingdom rather than the divisive referendum. >> looks the results that the tories may get close to a majority government. that makes your party potentially absolutely critical for cameron becoming the next prime minister, what is your view of the figures you are now looking at? >> until i see the final figures emerge. want to act in a responsible manner. and the united kingdom has to say. there was a lot of talk about a hung parliament and talk to the party that has the largest number of seats and clearly it's going to be the conservative party and banner we have been
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told and asked to speak to us. but we want to see stable government in the united kingdom. and on the basis that we have a northern ireland plan and wanted people to share our vision for the future of northern ireland and the united kingdom as a hole and to the extent as which as to the party and the united kingdom is to help us realize our vision. >> if you are interested in stability, how would you be interested in playing that. would you rule out the coalition and supply rangement or would you like to consider it vote-to-vote. what do you think the arrangement if the conservatives were to pick up the telephone and you were to talk to them, what arrangement is most sensible for you and the united
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kingdom as a whole? >> we have some perspective about the role we might play in a parallel manyment. we are elected to have eight seats. and dealing with a party that has probably over 300 seats in that parallelment in that context. we want to get the very best for northern ireland. we don't want seats in government or to be in a coalition, but we are happy to look at an arrangement whether it is over a five-year period, but the math its not yet there. perhaps not get ahead of ourselves and see what happens when the last result is declared. >> peterer robinson. thanks for joining us. ed mill i band has arrived.
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and cameron and my i band. but such as often is the case, still looks reasonably cherry. let's go to the high of the u.k. list. let's see what happened. [indiscernible]
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[cheers and applause] are the conservative party candidate 16,692. [cheers and applause] >> liberal democrat 644 votes. 79 votes.
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31 votes. 126 votes rejected. >> there we are. very well in the sense to get back in there because not many people expected that at the start of this election. take a quick look at this. had high hopes of that. billington was the special adviser, she was down there. a huge amount for a very long time, enormous amount for that swinssi and boy was that close. >> really, not a lot in there. >> random results. there is fewer than a thousand votes separating the first three candidates and put that down to how many doors were knocked on. how many cars were available to take people to the polls and
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all those kind of things. she remains with her nose -- >> ground campaign and they do, they do, it's a fact. >> all the data, they looked to it, labour having much more of a ground war effort than were the conservatives. >> bring back up that share of the vote. where is that. the vote has gone up there. is it it has been taken exactly even? what is your assessment? it is difficult to say what might be happening, the u.k., and marginal and used to be a two-way marginal. they have done very, very well there. but may be the conservative party has convinced enough
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voters who we know in the largest majority are tories to go back to the tories and that's part of the dynamic which we have seen leading up to tonight. and i should imagine that tipped the balance. >> democratic voters who left the party went to labour? >> so, what we do know, the majority have gone to labour. 11% of liberal democrat voters have go to ukip. the democrats have this broad support base. and so they have lost almost as many votes to ukip. and that shows the spread and how the collapse of the liberal democrats isn't a one split to
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labor. >> i think it was -- the machine has gone as well. >> the more votes you got the more it would hurt the conservatives and the fewer votes the democrats got, the more it would hurt the conservatives. neither of those things have come true. and this is the example of a conservative gain from labour where john denham, long-standing member stood down. the former member of southhamp ton. and they thought they would win. and stockton south completely end of the other country. james whart ton and very popular and colleagues on the conservative bench, he has managed to hold on. almost as good as having a ukip.
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>> let's point out the obvious. we he are looking at a split scroon. and all come at once. properly test us. >> having said that we are in -- we are going to where borrowries johnson is standing. [ [ [indiscernible]
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james franklin jackson, 14. boris johnson, the conservative party candidate 22,511. jane lawrence, the realist party, 18. graham lee, green party 1414. communities united party, 52. chris summers, labour party 11
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,816. >> he is back, boris johnson is in an oxbridge. let's just have a look, i suspect that will tell the story of the night. boris has comfortably got in. let's hear what he's got to say. >> there are more counties than anywhere else as you can see. i want to pay particular tribute to everyone who's been out campaigning with me in the last few weeks and months. i think it has been a fantastic campaign in london. we have seen some extraordinary results come in and we can be very proud indeed of all we have achieved. i want to thank all the people from that wonderful counsel who have been out with me time and time again on the streets of london.
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and i want to thank marina, who has thrown herself into this campaign with unprecedented enthusiasm, in spite of the fact that today, as i have just remembered, is our wedding anniversary. she thought i had forgotten that one. i want to pay particular tribute to the great sir john randall. [applause] a wonderful servant of parliament and of this country and of his constituency. my ambition is to follow in his footsteps. to that end, as i told you before, i bought 12 years ago a pair of shoes from rentals of oaks bridge and i hope to do as well as he did.
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after a long and exhausting campaign, the people have spoken , and i don't think we need any fancy constitutional experts tell us what they were trying to say. i think they have decisively rejected any attempt to take this country back to the 1970's. i think they have decisively rejected old-fashioned politics of division and it is clear to me that the people of this country want us to go forward with sensible, moderate policies that this conservative party has produced over the last five years and that have led to a sustained economic recovery. i think the people in this country want to go forward with that. >> a slightly rambling speech, but he may be the next leader of the tory party. we will have to wait and see. you may have noticed that labour
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has held onto edinburgh south which means were not looking -- let's go to martin geisler. labor have one one seat. martin. they have absolutely, tom. guess which seat they want? they won the seat they had in the last election with the smallest majority. i was speaking to some of the team a couple of hours ago. about an hour ago they were far more relaxed. even they were conceding, i think if you were at university they were getting votes at morningside.
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they were getting hardly anything at all. i think it's fair to say they have other people's help in doing so. >> thank you very much indeed. we will no doubt be back to you. we will see if vince cable is going to hang on. on any other night, that would be in doubt. >> cable, john vincent liberal democrat. 23,563. u.k. independent party, ukip 3060 nine. grant, nicholas stewart, labour party. 7129. the conservative party candidate, 25, --
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[applause] stop, dominic francis come christian party, 174. magna carta party, 26. >> all you can really say to that is, let's be clear about one thing at this time of the morning. absolutely nobody in politics saw that coming. vince cable losing his seat. we have a revolution going on in scotland, but the lib dems are being swept away in quite an extraordinary fashion. we might try to hold on to see what vince has got to say, but if not were going to go on to see ed miliband's count.
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we had heard that the tories were particularly trying to target twickenham. actually it was a labour mp that suggested the tories were there. i didn't believe him. >> big banks to vince cable -- big thanks to vince cable, who has been an amazing local mp. [applause] who has served twickenham for 18 years, and that's an amazing feat of public service. and so many people on the doorstep said what a great local mp he had been, so it's an absolute privilege to hollow.
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there are so many people that helped me come and we would be here all morning if i went through the whole list. but thank you so much, family friends, and supporters. there was a little boy i think about 8:00 in the morning at hampton wick. he went in with his father. his name is daniel. he said he was going to stay up. so daniel, yeah, i did it. although daniel wasn't old enough to vote, that's why we are in politics. to make your life better daniel. your life better in twickenham. and a promise i didn't say on the doorstep. >> of clearly emotional winning there. it seemed at the start of that speech if she was extremely
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emotional. perhaps i'm misinterpreting that. chris patten seat once upon a time looked as safe as safe could be for the liberal democrats. so really speechless almost. >> lets go and hear what vince has got to say. >> i want to warmly congratulate them for the racist comments a few moments ago. thanks to the people who organize this event very efficiently. above all, to my army of volunteers who brilliantly organized on the ground by my friend and parliamentary colleague and the rest of the local team here.
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no reflection on them the results. the fact is that we were hit by very well-organized national campaign, based on people's fear of a labour government and the scotch nationalists who we will see in the days that follow what are the implications of that. i just want to say for myself that it's been a marvelous experience and a great honor being an mp for this constituency. unfortunately this has been a terrible night for our party all over. i'm absolutely sure that we are going to bounce back both nationally and locally. thanks to everybody who supported me through these years. thank you. [applause] >> that is a piece of political history in the making. we are speechless in terms of what's happened to the liberal democrats. >> yes, and london perhaps in
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particular. down one seat as they are in wales and scotland. for all this talk of multiparty politics, and scotland, it's to party politics with labour now looking as if they're going to have 50 seats, getting up to the type of representation and london that they had in the days of tony blair. >> in a sense, you could see at five miles away. vince cable losing twickenham, absolutely nobody saw that. i don't think of heard one person suggest during the campaign, before the campaign, at any point, that that was even a vague possibility. >> it just goes to show that this assumption that the liberal democrats were dug in with some light vince cable, i strongly feel that one of the signals tonight that would have to hear loud and clear is that people really wanted to punish those liberal democrats. this has been five years in the
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making. we knew that there share had plummeted in 2010. obviously there was an assumption that it wouldn't translate, but here it is. we're starting to see more of this tonight. i'm not saying this is going to happen and the differences between how nick clegg in his tory rival are much different than the differences between vince cable and -- >> this question of punishing the liberal democrats, do you think that was evident in your research? >> would see very clearly that the liberal democrats were coming first, or in seats were liberal democrats were competed for second that their vote share was down more than some of the other seat. so there was clearly the sense that where you could have put
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chance of getting rid of the deer -- liberal democrats, those losses seem to be especially severe. >> were looking at sheffield. i guess the big question is whether nick clegg is going to hold on in sheffield. one of the safest liberal democrat seats, let's go up to the opinion room. >> i have a late arrival into the opinion room. that was a real surprise, the emotion running so high in twickenham. was that a genuine surprise to you? >> it was. at the time it was seen as being a completely unwinnable seat. he was such a well-known and respected local entity, set aside the liberal democrat.
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perhaps he had a feeling of how unpopular his party was becoming, but no tory ever expected to win that. the tories didn't expect to do well in london. london was seen as a great week point where labour was ahead by 12 points. it was a double surprise. >> let's go back to the moment the poll results were published. it was called a shocker. what was going through your mind at 10:00? >> everybody who saw the exit poll thought, could david cameron really be doing so well? could every single opinion poll be wrong? it seems now that yes, they were. the votes are still being counted, but ed miliband looks
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like he's going to finish with fewer mps than gordon brown means to bring back in 2010. >> was it the economy, we saw ed miliband stumble in the debate? >> what the posted show was that people didn't really prefer cameron over miliband that much. but people prefer cameron to anything involving the nationalist. it has worked very well. >> we will be back when we hear about nick clegg and get some reaction to that. tom: were also suggesting that chelsea's had a conservative gain, so it's almost a clean sweep. are you in glasgow?
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what is your reaction to what you have seen and scotland tonight? >> it's interesting, because at the beginning of the night, we were thinking six of the seven glasgow seats would go to the s&p. exit poll said 59 would go to the fnp. in the end it's a clean sweep for labour -- a clean sweep for the fnp in glasgow. what's really interesting is that the fnp have never won a u.k. parliamentary seat in glasgow and they did so resoundingly. 10,000 votes separating them from labour each and every time. but remember, some the seats have been labour since the 1930's, which really gives you an idea of how much the swing was in these glasgow seats. before we knew any of the results we were looking at
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glasgow northeast and thinking maybe they would hang on there because that would mean a 27% swing in the end. that became academic. other seats had a 35% swing from labor to the fnp. so terrible night for scottish labour in glasgow and a remarkable one for the fnp. >> as you were saying, an extraordinary thing to watch a city like glasgow, so long labor through and through, swing almost as one on one night to the fnp. it's a very difficult question to answer, so i apologize for asking it, but is there an obvious way back for labour? ultimately what swings one way generally swings back the other. >> it's interesting, because a lot of people were saying that many of the seats in scotland that were tory our union it's back to the 1950's, it took the tories about 50 years to lose their way, taking labour just five. unix from that is going to be a
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very -- you would expect it's going to be a very long, hard road back for labour. in the words of people we spoken to, labour has two top -- stop taking their scottish voters for granted. but tom harris who's the outgoing labour mp and glasgow said the people were not listing to labour. they didn't want to hear with the had to say because they were still angry about the referendum. the message is don't take people for granted and start listening to them. >> an incredible night in scotland as well. thank you very much indeed for taking the time to join as. >> the number of seats being declared is rapidly increasing. according to the exit poll, the tories will finish on 316 seats.
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the s&p forecast to have 58 seats. the seats declared so far now and the conservatives are 112. ukip on one, greens zero and the others together 18. the biggest story so far is the dominance of snp in scotland. this is how the seats are currently divided in scotland. the s&p have only six in these after the -- they party game more than 30 tonight. one of those is sent gordon where alex sammon has one. >> it's an extraordinary
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statement from the people of scotland. the scottish lie and roared this morning across the country. >> will take you straight to sheffield now and see our first glimpse of nick clegg as he arrives with the count for sheffield. an exceptionally intense night for him now. he seen vince cable go, truly dreadful night for the lib dems. i think we can hear from simon hughes, from the speech he gave earlier. >> the campaign for social justice for a fairer society will not find liberals and liberal democrats wanting. we may have lost this election here and in other places tonight , but the standard is still high. flying in this place and in many parts of britain. liberalism will go on making the argument for freedom. >> let's go to sheffield and see
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what fate is going to befall nick clegg. >> number of votes for each candidate is cast as follows. nick clegg 22,215. [applause] stephen clay, english democrats, 167. oliver covered 90,862. [applause]
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>> it was tight but nick clegg has held on, no doubt about that. let's wait until he is up and hear what he has to say. >> carlton reid, independent 249. jim stop the fiasco wild, 97. ian walker, conservative, 7544. there were 121 rejected vote and i hereby declare that nick clegg has been duly elected. thank you. [applause]
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>> a very somber looking nick clegg. net clegg: i thank you as returning officer for all your work, that of your team and all of the staff in the polling station and here at the counts as well. and of course to the police and all the emergency services in ensuring that the election has gone so smoothly in sheffield. i also want to thank all those candidates, my opponents and all of her for a very dynamic and vigorous contest which was held in sheffield hallam. i expect the residents will be quite relieved that the torrent is no longer making its way through. i'd like to thank my agent and my wonderful campaign team. i really couldn't wish for a better team of outstanding campaigners and activists. you believe in what you do, and
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you do it brilliantly. thank you very much indeed. and of course i like to convey my thanks to miriam, who is here, and are three little boys, who are not. it's not always easy to have a husband and a father in a family where i've been involved for 10 years now in the sometimes brutal frontline of british politics. but above all, my thanks goes to the residents of sheffield hallam who have once again shown their confidence in me, and i'm very grateful and humbled by their confidence in me. i know of course that many voters did not support me this time and had done so previously. my message to them is very simple. the greatest honor of my political life to have served this wonderful part of this wonderful city, and i will always work diligently in westminster on behalf of all communities and all families across sheffield hallam.
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turning to the national picture it is now painfully clear that this has been a cruel and punishing night for the liberal democrats. the election has profound implications for the country. it also obviously has profound invocations for the liberal democrats, and i will be seeking to make further remarks about the implications of this election both for the country and for the party that i lead and for my position in the liberal democrats when i make remarks to my colleagues in the liberal democrats late this morning when i returned to westminster. thank you very much. [applause] tom: nick clegg bear, a very somber looking nick clegg. before we get into talking about the substance of what he said, let's have a look at what happened there. he held on, there was a lot of talk that the tories were going
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to vote tactically to keep him in there. perhaps they did do that there. do you think that saved him? >> yes indeed. it's cold comfort to think that the liberal democrats in coalition with the conservatives has called them dearly and deeply. but in sheffield hallam it does look as if both groups have switched their support and given it to the liberal democrats, given his two nick clegg in order to stave off a labour win. >> it sounded on the verge of being a bit of a resignation speech. he said he would talk about the future and said -- for the party , for the country and also for his leadership. you might say that's no surprise, he's just seen that practical annihilation of his party.
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there will be a lot of people at westminster who think he's one of the most talented politicians of his generation, of any party. he's a great communicator. there aren't going to be that many mps of the liberal democrats left. some quite a few they will have to choose from. i cannot even make that calculation in my own head as was the. -- as we speak. >> one of the not nice word they use is decapitation of it strategically what they wanted to do was get rid of nick clegg because they thought that would weaken the chances of a conservative and liberal coalition. if it is indeed the case that nick clegg is considering resigning his role as leader of the liberal democrats maybe that gives us more reason to suspect the conservatives will go it alone, and indeed they might be able to. >> the live party and labour
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activist did attack the liberal democrats very aggressively almost more aggressively than they attacked the conservative party. yet it hasn't done much good, i'm tempted to say. >> it's one of the extraordinary surprising findings of the night. labor has been partly successful their vote share looks like it is up in england. obviously we have broad brush figures tonight and were looking at an unfolding story. we will look where labor has made inroads to the liberal democrats, but the broad picture is, it's a terrible night for the lib dems, it's it terrible night for labor. it's an amazing night for the s in p and a surprisingly good night for the conservatives. >> were looking at witney now and we are looking at don
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caster. we've been in the studio for six or seven hours or whatever it's been. the basic truths, one of the basic truths of this evening is that the opinion polls are completely wrong. glenda jackson and labour have held onto it. in everything we been talking about, massive events in scotland. the liberal democrats crashing, great drama, fascinating political history. vince cable going out. we've not had that much time to talk >> polls have it wrong -- where the opinion polls have it wrong. it is not clear to me get that the cochairs of the two major
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parties. it is such a neural race between the parties -- narrow race, it was impossible to know who was going to be the lead. if you have a six-point gap, you are still within that possible margin. i am not defending everyone who predicted that the conservatives would be innate frankly commanding lead. what we need to do is understand how both chairs of the parties have played out in constituency contexts. certainly at north-south light has been seen very strongly. -- north-south divide. we knew that the snp wouldn't do really well in scotland. >> letters mentioned that the tories have held onto the only seat in scotland.
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one of david cameron's cabinet looks like she was under the. -- under threat. >> 8000, 898. [cheers] >> james david glenn. 274. jones, hillary jane. u.k. independence party 2772. mcveigh, esther louise, the conservative party candidate 18,481. [cheers]
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that was estimate day in w irral west. given everything that has happened this evening, we would understand that they would absolutely be safe. the labour party was trying very hard to be safe. the tories have lost it. are we looking at the nort- h-south question again? the further south you go, labour does better? >> we are seeing some sort of a
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divide. i think with wirral west, there will always be seats that don't quite follow into the line of swings that we are seeing any general pattern. this seat is one of those seats that has gone against the story we haven't seen, which is labour taking bad hits from the tories. >> i think labour will be wondering around what they did right in the seat. or more to the point, carlisle. >> that was where will straw thought they were going to win that. >> yes indeed. david camera with their. -- w david cameron was there.
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my hunch is that the conservatives are a little closer to a rule of majority. we haven't have enough real evidence to change that. >> we have a graphic explaining what is happening in the northwest. let us look at the change in the seats. let us have a look at the change in number of seats, and which way they had gone. >> another result from the east midlands. she had a majority of 389. >> the local opinion polls said that she was heavily under threat. >> any kind of movement from conservative delay looks as if
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it was reasonably secure. >> it has held on in dudley north, the seeds that ukip -- the seat that ukip thought that they had a decent chance of winning once. not surprising in austin. certainly, ukip and the tories thought they might win it. >> receipt conservatives going fromwe see conservatives going from labour. the conservatives have done okay in wales. wales has behaved more like southern england than themost
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welsh people would like to think. >> thank you. we are back with matthew parish. reaction gentlemen? >> in the exit poll, we are seeing seven seats short of it. it is entirely possible that. it looks as if david cameron may be able to come out of the house. the question is, if you felt short -- if he falls short, then the lesson. nick clegg found it tonight. in which case, the tories would have much more matchmaking to do. >> in practical terms, getting government is missed through to be held ransom of by a tiny
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majority of one-to ma conservative mps would still need to the prime minister to make some kind of arrangement with the dup and get a fair wind fromt he li the lib dems. but psychologically it would look amazing. >> does david cameron have enough competent to take -- another, fittings. -- enough confidence. >> it is out of his grasp. he has terrible political capital to spend. he has an incredible chance to set government on his own terms. he has to be looking over his shoulder at ukip.
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it gets in a freedom to be more generous. it gives him a freedom to be more generous. >> the opinion polls had it and neck/. \ he was being too negative on the snp. and for my taste, it was not too inspiring. my heart was not lit with what the things they were saying. but it was effective. he has done a better job for david cameron than anyone in the world. >> we don't know how they would
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have done if their campaign would have been better. now he is going to be everything right with the tory campaign. he may have helped like knocking heads together. but this strategy may not make an interment difference one way or the other. -- an enormous difference one way or the other. >> i think ed miliband could be gone in the next few hours. the british public does not ask to like to be asked twice. the question is if you can do what michael howard did into 2005 which is raise appropriation contests to come back in 2020. >> it certainly doesn't look like it is going to be ed any
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longer. >> andrew burnham -- too toxic or to suit? -- or too soon? tory boys talking about the future of the labour party. >> you can see dawn coming up over my shoulder in westminster giving up as a moment to reflect on what an extraordinary night it has been. will nick clegg stay on as
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leader of the liberal democrats? what will the lib dems do? what is going to happen in scotland? are we going to have another independence referendum? we allued that david cameron said he will not walk back into downing street if he can't make a referendum on europe. we had results in the last hour or so. let's get a summary at thsiis point. >> a lot has gone down on the battlefield. we have a graphic to show you.
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let us have a look at scotland. as of the results we had in 2010 he was happening. if we go to 2015 the vote is shifting. let us have a look at labour's map. take us back to 2010, now we can see where we are looking at now. look at scotland, it is extraordinary how that map changes in terms of the electoral heat left north of the border. should we have a contemplation of what has happened to the liberal democrats?
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the classic stronghold in the west of those lib dems seats. let us have a look at how that color is looking out in 2015. it is extraordinary. 2010, that is how the map looks for liberal democrats. no laughing matter for the lib dems, is it? a bleak picture indeed. we will carry on with these pictures. we can also look at the battleground and how some of the seats we have been looking on
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all night are shaping up. let us look at the labour target list. if we go to the top of the target list. we are looking at a few of these london seats. the valley stayed tory. when we look at the border, where things are getting trickier, they took central.
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a very interesting selection of london seats. labour party tweeters happy to see tahthat one. fascinating to see how it calibrates around the board. >> interesting that we haven't heard anything from bryson. >> our colleague is in recent
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waiting those results. -- waiting for the always result. -- waiting for those results. you can see the bright green icon. >> brighton is critical. depending on your point of view, it is seen as london of the sea. we want to see if brighton is
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going to behave like london or if it will behave like something was, in which case labour will expect not to win in the conservative will hold on. another thing -- david cameron may not be so pleased to hear that dup -- it puts the effective majority from 2323 to 324, which is crucial. is it more likely that the dup will support the tories or not? i cannot answer that. >> the conservatives themselves are putting up candidate. they have done pretty poorly.
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>> we have been told that charles kennedy has lost his seta. -- his seat. >> he has been there a very long time. >> snp has beaten the liberal democrats in more than 60 seats. that is an extraordinary outcome. >> it reminds you of what an extraordinarily brutal business politics can be. ed miliband thought he would be heading towards downing street at some point. i'm getting confused with my today's and tomorrows. all of the opinion polls suggested that would be a possibility.
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everyone calls each other on election day and asks, have you heard anything? the answer is no. labour was optimistic, they thought the opinion polls would be in the right direction. i do not think they would get the majority, but they certainly did think that conservatives would be out and ed miliband given 2-3 days to work out. it's now looks extremely unlikely that that is going to happen. disappointment for him. he felt he represented a different vision of the labour party. he was absolutely convinced with
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liberal democrat voters that he was going to get over the line. but it looks as if it is not to be. [applause] >> i hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate is as follows. allen and david stewart, english democrats, putting england fr irst 448 votes. baker, penny, liberal democrats
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1005 votes. nick "the flying", the official monster raving party 162 votes. fletcher mark, peter, the conservative candidate 7235 votes. jackson mary trade union and socialist coalition, 258 votes. kennedy pete, green party 757
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votes. miliband ed, labour party, 2708 votes. [applause] >> at miliband akin ed miliband back in donc aster north. the question will be grappl ing with is if the tory numbers will be going up overnight when we wake up. >> 8928 votes. [applause] the number of the ballot papers
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rejected- >> the way you look at it, not a good night or ed miliband and his labour party. look at the change of a vote in his own constituency. a big rise in ukip, interestingly. that has been part of the pattern. it will have an impact on him. i think the key is to hear what he himself has to say. [applause] ed miliband: i want to start by thanking my fellow candidate. i want to thank the returning officer. i want to thank the police. i want to thank the brilliant
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staff of dorcaster council. i want to think the people of dorchester north fort reelecting me as member of parliament. i want to think my brilliant labour party members for being with me here today. i want to thank all of the labour party members across the country, who have done such an extraordinary job throughout this campaign. [applause] . ed miliband: the results are still coming in, but this has been a difficult night for the labour party. we did not make the gains we wanted in a london and wells. and we thought a surge of -- and swe saw in scotland a surge of
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nationalism sweep the party. i want to say that the next government has a huge responsibility. it has a huge responsibility in facing the difficult task to be our country together. whatever party we come from, if we believe in the united kingdom, we should stand up for people in every part of our united kingdom. [applause] because i believe that what unites us is much more than what divides us. i'm going to go to london to wait the full results to come through. but i want to reiterate my thanks to doncaster north. it is a huge privilege to
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be a member of your parliament. it is a huge privilege for you to give me your trust. thank you. [applause] >> ed miliband paying tribute to his colleagues in scotland who lost their seats. and unfortunately tonight, there are a great number of them. let us go straight to john in leeds. >> we have waited a long time for any action. we have a very bigger drama unfolding. this morning, as we speak, he cannot even be sure he is going to be an mp. it is too close to call we are told in hints constituency.
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-- in his constituency. when you look at the piles of the ellet papers -- ballot papers, they are about even between him and his tory challenger, who will become very famous indeed if she has the upset to win . we have not got the results yet. it will not come until after 6:00 this evening. it is that close. >> the tories put a huge amount of effort to unseating him last time. he is a fighter. he held on in the end with not a huge majority, but just enough. i asked him several times over
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the last few weeks, are you competent? -- confident? he in the entire labour party brushed it off, saying don't be ridiculous. this would be a big shock, would it not? >> he began with a majority. it is only a marginal seat. last time five years ago, the tories through in the kitchen sink. they haven't had any big hitches enough consistency. -- hitches in and they are constituency. she is a singer-songwriter. might be her greatest
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performance if she pulled this off. we do not have the result. may be a half hour, even longer. confidence has ebbed and flowed. as we speak, that confidence has drained away somewhat. >> john, we will be back to you no doubt. thank you very much for talking us through that. we mentioned a short while ago that charles kennedy lost his seat. let us see what he has to say about it. [applause]
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>> i echo the feelings of everyone. there are seats you administer in this occasion. i am grateful for it. also, to police services. our local police services that do such a good job. we hope that we become more localized in times to come. i am very fond of political history. if nothing else we can all reflect and perhaps tell our grandchildren that we were there that night. i would like to thank my home team who have been so energetic and dedicated in putting forward

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